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reçus à valoir

English translation: receipts for partial payment

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French term or phrase:reçus à valoir
English translation:receipts for partial payment
Entered by: Heather Phillips

18:09 Nov 17, 2020
French to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s) / Rent receipt
French term or phrase: reçus à valoir
Another term in the same paragraph as queried earlier and answered, for which I give my thanks. So, the MESNE PROFITS are received by the proprietor of the building. "Cette quittance ne fait pas novation et doit etre considérée comme RECU A TITRE D'INDEMNITE D'OCCUPATION". Because "quittance" is feminine, RECU can't relate to this so it is the sum that is received as mesne profits, I think. Then the paragraph continues: "Elle [la quittance] annule tous les reçus à valoir". Again I am stumped as to what these reçus à valoir are. Property rental isn't my area of expertise, sorry, so all help is gratefully received.
Heather Phillips
United Kingdom
Local time: 10:58
receipts for partial payment
Explanation:
A-VALOIR: "FINANCES. Paiement partiel d'une somme due, acompte. Au lieu d'un remboursement total, mon débiteur m'a donné un à-valoir." https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie9/à-valoir

An example of a legal letter for landlords to send to tenants: "Cette quittance annule tous les reçus qui auraient pu être établis précédemment en cas de paiement partiel du montant..." https://www.journaldunet.fr/patrimoine/guide-de-l-immobilier...

The difference between a quittance and a reçu in this context is that a quittance shows that the tenant is released from its legal obligation to pay X€ because it has paid that amount in full, while a reçu just shows that some lesser amount was received.

In other words, if you owed €400 and only paid €300, you would get a reçu for €300. If you then paid the remaining €100, you would get a quittance. That quittance would nullify the previous reçu because they both refer to the same debt, which is now extinguished.
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Eliza Hall
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Local time: 05:58
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5 +4receipts for partial payment
Eliza Hall
4receipts issued for payments on account / of real vs. spurious rent /
Adrian MM.
4 -1advance payment receipt
Francois Boye


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
receipts issued for payments on account / of real vs. spurious rent /


Explanation:
Marco S. could have posted his idea, but here is mine.

Quittance - an 'effectual' receipt and discharge for actual rent vs. the 'bogus' mesne profits version.

No need to apologise - even if in England. i recall and constantly cite a BBC TV play half a century ago. 'No need to keep saying sorry. You can't go through life apologising'.


    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french-to-english/law-patents/2366...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 86
Notes to answerer
Asker: Brilliant explanation thanks Adrian :)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: where this bit "real vs. spurious rent" come from ???
12 hrs
  -> from the context: until a *Rent* Act-protected tenancy, receipts are issued on a/c of mesne profits. Part payments is legally inaccurate as the receipts don't recognis/ze the payments as offiicial rent pd. by a tenant on a/c.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
receipts for partial payment


Explanation:
A-VALOIR: "FINANCES. Paiement partiel d'une somme due, acompte. Au lieu d'un remboursement total, mon débiteur m'a donné un à-valoir." https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/academie9/à-valoir

An example of a legal letter for landlords to send to tenants: "Cette quittance annule tous les reçus qui auraient pu être établis précédemment en cas de paiement partiel du montant..." https://www.journaldunet.fr/patrimoine/guide-de-l-immobilier...

The difference between a quittance and a reçu in this context is that a quittance shows that the tenant is released from its legal obligation to pay X€ because it has paid that amount in full, while a reçu just shows that some lesser amount was received.

In other words, if you owed €400 and only paid €300, you would get a reçu for €300. If you then paid the remaining €100, you would get a quittance. That quittance would nullify the previous reçu because they both refer to the same debt, which is now extinguished.

Eliza Hall
United States
Local time: 05:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 60
Notes to answerer
Asker: I decided to go with this in spite of the fact that Adrian's answer fitted my context pretty nicely, as this is more generic and could help others more


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Daryo: "à-valoir" = to be counted as part of a final full payment that should be done later.
10 hrs
  -> Merci.
agree  writeaway
11 hrs
  -> Merci.
agree  Suzie Withers: makes sense
12 hrs
  -> Merci.
agree  Angus Stewart
18 hrs
  -> Thanks.
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
advance payment receipt


Explanation:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/advance-payment.asp

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Note added at 5 hrs (2020-11-17 23:56:23 GMT)
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Advance payment is a type of payment made ahead of its normal schedule such as paying for a good or service before you actually receive it. Advance payments are sometimes required by sellers as protection against nonpayment, or to cover the seller's out-of-pocket costs for supplying the service or product.

Source: Investopedia

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 05:58
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 36

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Daryo: It's only "in advance" in relation to an expected/posssible later "final" payment, but for all we know the "à valoir" payments and the full payment justifying "la quittance" could all be grossly overdue - your explanation has no relation to this ST.
11 hrs
  -> Advance payments are sometimes required by sellers as protection against nonpayment, or to cover the seller's out-of-pocket costs for supplying the service or product.
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