tercera extraña a juicio en estricto sentido

English translation: (he/she) appears/intervenes in these amparo proceedings as a third party (…)

15:46 Feb 27, 2021
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
Spanish term or phrase: tercera extraña a juicio en estricto sentido
"se ostenta en el presente juicio de amparo como tercera extraña a juicio en estricto sentido y con tal carácter busca proteger el referido ..."

Comes before this suit for amparo as a 'third party to the action' is clear, but is this then followed by 'in the strict sense'?

This is from a Mexican judgment handed down, under the section discussing the legal standing of the parties to the hearing.
Diana Maudslay
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:29
English translation:(he/she) appears/intervenes in these amparo proceedings as a third party (…)
Explanation:
Mexican law, quite difficult for me as a Spaniard, therefore my middle confidence level, but this is my try.

Source:
(…) se ostenta en el presente juicio de amparo como tercera extraña a juicio en estricto sentido y con tal carácter busca proteger el referido (…)

Possible translation:
(he/she) appears/intervenes in these amparo proceedings as a third party, strictly speaking not directly involved in them/said proceedings, and in this condition (he/she) seeks to protect the (…)

Let´s analize the source step by step:
1) Ostentarse: In my reading this corresponds to “intervene” in the proceedings.
2) Juicio de amparo: Amparo proceedings. You don´t need to translate “amparo” as it is used (and understood) as such in English. However, if you don´t feel comfortable with “amparo”, you can use “extraordinary constitutional appeal”, which is long, true, but comprehensible to everyone. And this is what “amparo” means in Mexican law.
3) Tercera extraña a juicio: Third party not directly involved in the proceedings, BUT (bit “but”) indirectly affected by them. Please see definition below.
4) En sentido estricto: I believe this expression has no particular meaning strictly speaking :-). It just means that: Strictly speaking. See reference below.


About “amparo” in Mexican law:
https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/mexico-new-ampa...
Global Legal Monitor
Mexico: New Amparo Law is Enacted
(Apr. 30, 2013) On April 2, 2013, the Mexican Executive Branch officially published a Decree in the Diario Oficial of the Federation (the official gazette) promulgating the Amparo Law, which regulates articles 103 and 107 of the Constituton. The Decree repealed the Amparo Law that had been published in the Diario Oficial on January 10, 1936. (Decreto por el que se Expide la Ley de Amparo, Reglamentaria de los Artículos 103 y 107 de la Constitución de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos, DIARIO OFICIAL (Apr. 2, 2013).)
Amparo, is an extraordinary constitutional appeal, which may be filed in federal court, by Mexicans and by foreigners. It is often referred to as a “constitutional protection lawsuit,” which is basically governed by articles 103 and 107 of the Federal Constitution. The amparo proceedings may be used for several purposes: 1) as a defense of the individual guarantees provided in the Constitution; 2) against unconstitutional laws; 3) to review the legality of judicial decisions; 4) against final administrative decisions, awards, and resolutions affecting private parties; or 5) to protect communal right of an agrarian nature. (

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 hrs (2021-02-27 18:32:22 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

About tercero/-a extraño a juicio (see please “en sentido estricto” also here):
https://www.tribunalesagrarios.gob.mx/ta/?p=3330#:~:text=En ...
TERCERO EXTRAÑO A JUICIO. NO TIENE TAL CARÁCTER QUIEN TILDA DE FALSA SU REPRESENTACIÓN EN EL JUICIO DE ORIGEN COMO PARTE ACTORA.
El artículo 107, fracción VI, de la Ley de Amparo establece la procedencia del juicio de amparo indirecto contra actos dentro o fuera de juicio que afecten a personas extrañas. En estricto sentido, un extraño a juicio es aquella persona física o moral que no figura en el procedimiento como parte, pero que sufre un perjuicio dentro de él o en ejecución de la resolución que ahí se dicte, sin haber tenido la oportunidad de ser oída en su defensa por desconocer las actuaciones relativas.


--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 day 17 hrs (2021-03-01 09:39:32 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Again Mexico, about “en sentido estricto”:

https://suprema-corte.vlex.com.mx/vid/779606293
Jurisprudencia
Ejecutoria num. P./J. 20/2018 (10a.) de Suprema Corte de Justicia, Pleno
(…)
55. Así, dijo, el concepto de persona extraña a juicio incluye también al propio demandado cuando no es emplazado, o cuando los vicios en el emplazamiento le impiden conocer los datos necesarios para defenderse, sustentando su razonamiento en la tesis P./J. 7/98 "PERSONA EXTRAÑA A JUICIO, CONCEPTO DE."
56. Igualmente razonó, citando las consideraciones de este Alto Tribunal, al resolver la contradicción de tesis 21/90 en sesión de uno de junio de mil novecientos noventa y cuatro que, las personas extrañas a juicio, en estricto sentido (personas morales o físicas distintas a las partes de la controversia) pueden promover el juicio de amparo en la vía indirecta, en términos de los artículos 107, fracción VII, de la Constitución, y 114, fracción V, de la Ley de A. abrogada.


In other words, “strictly speaking” or “in a strict sense” (your approach) refers in this context exclusively or strictly to the “personas extrañas al juicio” (people not directly involved in the proceedings) and nobody else.
Selected response from:

Toni Castano
Spain
Local time: 22:29
Grading comment
Thank you very much for your comprehensive help on this one.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3a non-privy company or public body > that is not strictly bound by the judgment
Adrian MM.
3(he/she) appears/intervenes in these amparo proceedings as a third party (…)
Toni Castano
3 -1a third party on trial in a strict sense
Lisa Rosengard


Discussion entries: 1





  

Answers


2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
a non-privy company or public body > that is not strictly bound by the judgment


Explanation:
It would help to know who is a terecera and why feminine as an individual or partnership, company - sociedad or empresa - or public body. The corporate status would explain who not joining or joined in the 'amparo' and, thus, not privy to judgment.

Example sentence(s):
  • (“It is a principle of general application in Anglo-American jurisprudence that one is not bound by a judgment in personam in a litigation in which he is not designated as a party or to which he has not been made a party by service of process.”);

    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-general/401...
    Reference: http://www.jstor.org/stable/3479472?seq=1
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 574
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
(he/she) appears/intervenes in these amparo proceedings as a third party (…)


Explanation:
Mexican law, quite difficult for me as a Spaniard, therefore my middle confidence level, but this is my try.

Source:
(…) se ostenta en el presente juicio de amparo como tercera extraña a juicio en estricto sentido y con tal carácter busca proteger el referido (…)

Possible translation:
(he/she) appears/intervenes in these amparo proceedings as a third party, strictly speaking not directly involved in them/said proceedings, and in this condition (he/she) seeks to protect the (…)

Let´s analize the source step by step:
1) Ostentarse: In my reading this corresponds to “intervene” in the proceedings.
2) Juicio de amparo: Amparo proceedings. You don´t need to translate “amparo” as it is used (and understood) as such in English. However, if you don´t feel comfortable with “amparo”, you can use “extraordinary constitutional appeal”, which is long, true, but comprehensible to everyone. And this is what “amparo” means in Mexican law.
3) Tercera extraña a juicio: Third party not directly involved in the proceedings, BUT (bit “but”) indirectly affected by them. Please see definition below.
4) En sentido estricto: I believe this expression has no particular meaning strictly speaking :-). It just means that: Strictly speaking. See reference below.


About “amparo” in Mexican law:
https://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/mexico-new-ampa...
Global Legal Monitor
Mexico: New Amparo Law is Enacted
(Apr. 30, 2013) On April 2, 2013, the Mexican Executive Branch officially published a Decree in the Diario Oficial of the Federation (the official gazette) promulgating the Amparo Law, which regulates articles 103 and 107 of the Constituton. The Decree repealed the Amparo Law that had been published in the Diario Oficial on January 10, 1936. (Decreto por el que se Expide la Ley de Amparo, Reglamentaria de los Artículos 103 y 107 de la Constitución de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos, DIARIO OFICIAL (Apr. 2, 2013).)
Amparo, is an extraordinary constitutional appeal, which may be filed in federal court, by Mexicans and by foreigners. It is often referred to as a “constitutional protection lawsuit,” which is basically governed by articles 103 and 107 of the Federal Constitution. The amparo proceedings may be used for several purposes: 1) as a defense of the individual guarantees provided in the Constitution; 2) against unconstitutional laws; 3) to review the legality of judicial decisions; 4) against final administrative decisions, awards, and resolutions affecting private parties; or 5) to protect communal right of an agrarian nature. (

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 hrs (2021-02-27 18:32:22 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

About tercero/-a extraño a juicio (see please “en sentido estricto” also here):
https://www.tribunalesagrarios.gob.mx/ta/?p=3330#:~:text=En ...
TERCERO EXTRAÑO A JUICIO. NO TIENE TAL CARÁCTER QUIEN TILDA DE FALSA SU REPRESENTACIÓN EN EL JUICIO DE ORIGEN COMO PARTE ACTORA.
El artículo 107, fracción VI, de la Ley de Amparo establece la procedencia del juicio de amparo indirecto contra actos dentro o fuera de juicio que afecten a personas extrañas. En estricto sentido, un extraño a juicio es aquella persona física o moral que no figura en el procedimiento como parte, pero que sufre un perjuicio dentro de él o en ejecución de la resolución que ahí se dicte, sin haber tenido la oportunidad de ser oída en su defensa por desconocer las actuaciones relativas.


--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 day 17 hrs (2021-03-01 09:39:32 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Again Mexico, about “en sentido estricto”:

https://suprema-corte.vlex.com.mx/vid/779606293
Jurisprudencia
Ejecutoria num. P./J. 20/2018 (10a.) de Suprema Corte de Justicia, Pleno
(…)
55. Así, dijo, el concepto de persona extraña a juicio incluye también al propio demandado cuando no es emplazado, o cuando los vicios en el emplazamiento le impiden conocer los datos necesarios para defenderse, sustentando su razonamiento en la tesis P./J. 7/98 "PERSONA EXTRAÑA A JUICIO, CONCEPTO DE."
56. Igualmente razonó, citando las consideraciones de este Alto Tribunal, al resolver la contradicción de tesis 21/90 en sesión de uno de junio de mil novecientos noventa y cuatro que, las personas extrañas a juicio, en estricto sentido (personas morales o físicas distintas a las partes de la controversia) pueden promover el juicio de amparo en la vía indirecta, en términos de los artículos 107, fracción VII, de la Constitución, y 114, fracción V, de la Ley de A. abrogada.


In other words, “strictly speaking” or “in a strict sense” (your approach) refers in this context exclusively or strictly to the “personas extrañas al juicio” (people not directly involved in the proceedings) and nobody else.


Toni Castano
Spain
Local time: 22:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 127
Grading comment
Thank you very much for your comprehensive help on this one.
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)

4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
a third party on trial in a strict sense


Explanation:
It seems to be in connection with a form of constitutional protection. 'The present judgement shows a third party on a stringent trial, in such a way which seeks to protect the person referred.'

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 days 4 hrs (2021-03-01 20:00:08 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

https://www.deepl.com/translator#es/en/Se ostenta en el presente juicio de amparo como tercera extra%C3%B1a en estricto sentido y con tal car%C3%A1cter busca proteger el referido.

"In the present amparo proceedings it's acting as a party stranger in the strict (stringent) sense of the word, and in that capacity it seeks to protect the aforementioned." A stringent sense is strictly controlled or enforced.

("Se ostenta en el presente juicio de amparo como tercera extraña en estricto sentido y con tal carácter busca proteger el referido.")

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurso_de_amparo
"The writ of 'amparo' is a remedy for the protection of constitutional rights, found in certain jurisdictions. The 'amparo' remedy or action is an instrument for the protection of individual rights, while it protects the constitution itself by insuring its principles are not violated."

("El amparo es un remedio para la protección de los derechos constitucionales encontrados en ciertas jurisdicciones. El remedio o la acción de amparo es un instrumento para la protección de los derechos de los individuos mientras que protecciona la constitución al asegurar que sus principios no sean violados."


--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 2 days 4 hrs (2021-03-01 20:32:16 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

https://www.tribunalesagrarios.gob.mx/ta/?p=4406
"Cuando se trata del tercero extraño, como su posición es distinta a la de los sujetos de la controversia de orígen, los efectos de amparo no son que se llame a ese juicio natural, pues no es parte, sino que la finalidad es reintegrarlo en sus derechos afectados, que, son los bienes de litigio, pero sin que ello implique que en el sumario de orígen debe declararse la nulidad de todo lo actuado para que se llame a juicio."

("When it concerns the third party stranger (whose case might be declined), strictly speaking (or in a strict and stringent sense), since his position is differently separate from those involved in the original controversy or dispute, the protective effects do not call the stranger to natural judgement, since he or she remains apart from the disputes. Instead, an end result is incorporated into the affected entitlements, which are the assets or goods of litigation (the dispute or lawsuit). However, the original summary does not need to declare the nullity (non-entity or incapacity) of the entire performance (work or proceedings) in order to call it to judgement or recess trial."

"In the case of a third party who is a stranger in the strict sense, as his position is different from that of the parties in the original dispute, the effects of 'amparo' are not that he be called to natural trial, but the aim is to reinstate him in his affected rights, which are the assets in dispute, but without this implying that the original summary proceedings should declare the nullity of everything that has been done or that he be called to trial.")

https://www.deepl.com/translator#es/en/Cuando se trata del tercero extra%C3%B1o en sentido estricto %2C como su posici%C3%B3n es distinta a la de los sujetos de la controversia de or%C3%ADgen%2C los efectos de amparo no son que se llame a ese juicio natural pues no es parte%2C sino que la finalidad es reintegrarlo en sus derechos afectados%2C que%2C son los bienes de litigio%2C pero sin que ello implique que en el sumario de or%C3%ADgen debe declararse la nulidad de todo lo actuado o para que se llame a juicio.

"Para los efectos del juicio de amparo, una persona extraña es, en principio, aquella que no ha figurado en el juicio o en el procedimiento como parte en sentido natural, pero que sufre un perjuicio dentro del mismo o en la ejecución de las resoluciones, sin haber tenido la oportunidad de ser oída en su defensa por desconocer las actuaciones relativas quedando incluido en este concepto, asimismo, la parte que no fue aplazada o que fue aplazada in correctamente."
http://diccionariojuridico.mx/definicion/persona-extrana-a-j...

(For the purposes of judgement with protection, an estranged person is, in principle, the one who does not figure or appear in a process or trial of judgement, naturally or completely, but who is subjected to detriment or damage in the application or enforcement (implementation) of a ruling or decision, without having had the opportunity to be heard in his own defense, due to his unawareness or lack of knowledge surrounding the proceedings involved, remaining conceptually included before a part which was not correctly in place.)

Example sentence(s):
  • 'Parece tratarse de una forma de amparo constitucional. 'El juicio actual muestra una parte o una persona tercera a juicio estricto, de una tal manera que busca proteger a la persona referida.'
Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
Local time: 21:29
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 36

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  AllegroTrans: "a third party on a stringent trial, in such a way which seeks to protect the person referred" is nonsense, as is your suggested answer; your additions at 2 days 4 hrs are equally nonsensical
22 hrs

neutral  ormiston: Agree with Allegro Trans. Your 'helpful' entire phrases expose a poor grasp of language.
1 day 1 hr
Login to enter a peer comment (or grade)



Login or register (free and only takes a few minutes) to participate in this question.

You will also have access to many other tools and opportunities designed for those who have language-related jobs (or are passionate about them). Participation is free and the site has a strict confidentiality policy.

KudoZ™ translation help

The KudoZ network provides a framework for translators and others to assist each other with translations or explanations of terms and short phrases.


See also:
Term search
  • All of ProZ.com
  • Term search
  • Jobs
  • Forums
  • Multiple search