English term
woman driver
4 +8 | Woman driver | Yvonne Gallagher |
3 -2 | Asian drivers | Neil Ashby |
Jan 19, 2023 09:22: philgoddard changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"
Non-PRO (3): Edith Kelly, Christopher Schröder, philgoddard
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Responses
Woman driver
Nothing more is needed or used to my knowledge. This term already conjures up the images you want. WHY you want them however is another thing
You should mark this question as "potentially offensive"
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Note added at 1 hr (2023-01-18 21:07:04 GMT)
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OK Ramunas, I understand that sometimes we have to use terms in translations we wouldn't normally use in such a way ourselves.
This term is SOOOO widespread and it seems like a majority of males, and some women too, think we are all useless, incompetent drivers.
Thank you Yvonne. WHY I need it, I said in my question - to translate poetry. |
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Tony M
: Yes, you can't get much more belittling and misogynistic!
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Thanks Tony! Yes indeed.
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philgoddard
: Women are better drivers in my experience. Except when my wife puts her makeup on at 75 mph.
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Thanks!// LOL! Women have to be multitasking all the time you see :-)
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Christopher Schröder
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Thanks:-)
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AllegroTrans
: Nothing more needed - to a native English speaker the term is derogatory, especially in a certain tone of voice. I know of no other term.
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Many thanks:-)
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Edith Kelly
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Thanks!
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Barbara Carrara
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Thanks Barbara
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Neil Ashby
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Many thanks
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Anastasia Kalantzi
: How could I hardly agree but both disagree at the same time having a parashutist daughter and myself as diplomed fork-lift truck driver in an electrological equipment factory for 5 years..
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Thank you!
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Asian drivers
Obviously it's not sexist, but you could always add "Asian woman driver".
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AllegroTrans
: I doubt whether this answers Asker's question; he did specify "women"// well I (and others) disagree with Asker; there is no other effective term & your suggestion is racist as opposed to sexist
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The asker also said several times that "woman driver" on it's own wasn't enough. Plus, I also doubted the same, which is why I said he could use "Asian woman driver", but maybe you didn't manage to read that far?//So you didn't read that far again? LOL
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Anastasia Kalantzi
: The same with AT.
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Discussion
(Just quite surprised at the comments questioning my moral standards - I thought we're discussing linguistic aspects here)
In the UK at least, men, comedians, authors, scriptwriters, etc. have used the expression "woman driver" as an insult for decades, even if the driver is a man, for example.
The concept behind is that all female drivers are inherently bad drivers, so whenever another driver does something wrong (even without being able to determine whether or not it is a woman), then they must be a "woman driver".
You could emphasis that it is an insult by saying something like:
"Typical! Woman driver!"
Four native English speakers have given you your answer.
I'm not into discussing how (in)appropriate they are.
I'm not into discussing how (in)appropriate they are.
I'm not into discussing how (in)appropriate they are.
I'm not into discussing how (in)appropriate they are.
You're asking us to
1. Tell you how to say "woman driver" in English. The answer is "woman driver"
2. Perpetuate an offensive and outdated stereotype