Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
you leave; (as imper.) (please) leave!
Albanian translation:
lini (2 ps. pl.)
Added to glossary by
Monika Coulson
Jan 14, 2004 14:20
20 yrs ago
English term
you (pl.) leave (statement, not command)
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lëni or lini? Usually the second person plural indicative singular is the same as the imperative, but my book has lëni.
Proposed translations
(Albanian)
| 5 +5 | Second person of the plural of the Present Indicative : "lini" |
mergim
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| 3 | lëni |
Monika Coulson
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Second person of the plural of the Present Indicative : "lini"
Hi Simon,
As Monica explained, and she is right, the second person of the plural in the Indicative Form should be written :
"Ju lini" as well as the polite form of the second person of the singular.
There are several irregular verbs with apophonic zero-grade that belong to the old category of nasal verbs. Among them are :
Vë (vê-gegë form)- place (verb-put in a place),(Present), vura (vuna) (Aorist),
vënë (vû) (Participle)
Zë (zâ-gegë)- seize, appropriate,(Present), zura (zuna or xûna-gegë),
(Aorist), zënë (zanë or xânë)(Participle) and now your verb :
Lë (lâ-gegë form)-let,leave, (Present)lashë, (Aorist), lanë (Participle).
I hope I could help you.
As Monica explained, and she is right, the second person of the plural in the Indicative Form should be written :
"Ju lini" as well as the polite form of the second person of the singular.
There are several irregular verbs with apophonic zero-grade that belong to the old category of nasal verbs. Among them are :
Vë (vê-gegë form)- place (verb-put in a place),(Present), vura (vuna) (Aorist),
vënë (vû) (Participle)
Zë (zâ-gegë)- seize, appropriate,(Present), zura (zuna or xûna-gegë),
(Aorist), zënë (zanë or xânë)(Participle) and now your verb :
Lë (lâ-gegë form)-let,leave, (Present)lashë, (Aorist), lanë (Participle).
I hope I could help you.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Monika Coulson
1 day 14 hrs
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| agree |
Edlira BABAMUSTA (MCIL)
2 days 2 hrs
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| agree |
aneta_xh
2 days 6 hrs
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| agree |
Vjollca Martinson
2 days 14 hrs
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| agree |
Borana Moisiu
16 days
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Comment: "many thanks Mërgim, all is clear now!"
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lëni
Hi Simon,
I am not so sure in this case. As far as I remember, both forms are used, "lëni" for the Indicative Mood and "lini" for the Imperative Mood. Of course, it sounds better to say "lini" in this case. I just checked with all the grammar books that I have and did not get any solid answer. However, I saw both forms beeing used, but I do not know the rule behind their usage. Hopefully someone else will be able to help you with a better answer. Good luck and have a nice day,
Monika
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Note added at 1 hr 48 mins (2004-01-14 16:08:25 GMT)
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*being used\" - please excuse my typo above.
I am not so sure in this case. As far as I remember, both forms are used, "lëni" for the Indicative Mood and "lini" for the Imperative Mood. Of course, it sounds better to say "lini" in this case. I just checked with all the grammar books that I have and did not get any solid answer. However, I saw both forms beeing used, but I do not know the rule behind their usage. Hopefully someone else will be able to help you with a better answer. Good luck and have a nice day,
Monika
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Note added at 1 hr 48 mins (2004-01-14 16:08:25 GMT)
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*being used\" - please excuse my typo above.
Discussion
PRESENT INDICATIVE
(un�) l�
(ti) l�
(ai/ajo) l�
(ne) l�m�
(ju) l�ni
(ata/ato) l�n�
Best regards,
Simon
Please give more context. Would it be possible to write down the sentence where you found this form of "l�ni"? TIA,
Monika