Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
birth number
Czech translation:
rodné číslo
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Marek Buchtel
Oct 11, 2005 09:28
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I'm putting this question here, although it's an English-to-English question really. I'm translating a contract from English into Polish where Czech parties occur. The problem phrase occurs in the following fragment:
Ing. Jiří T., residing at [address], birth No. 550403/332;
Does it refer to birth certificate number or something else?
Please provide explanations in English, thank you.
Ing. Jiří T., residing at [address], birth No. 550403/332;
Does it refer to birth certificate number or something else?
Please provide explanations in English, thank you.
Proposed translations
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| 5 +5 | birth number |
Marek Buchtel
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| 3 +2 | rodne cislo |
Michaela Drabova
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| 5 | rodné čislo |
Jan Fatara
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Marek Buchtel
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Works in: English to Czech, Czech to English, Slovak to English, and 2 more.
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birth number
This number is assigned to each person upon birth.
It consists of the date of birth in the format YYMMDD, while for women, 50 is added to the number of the month - e.g. 665511 for a woman born on May 11, 1966, while 660511 for a man born on the same day.
Then there is a slash, and after that a "serial" number (3 digits) comes, which makes each birth number unique; the last digit is calculated, so that the whole number is divisible by 11. (i.e. the last number is the BN modulo 11).
People born before c. 1955 (I am not sure about the year) do not have the last digit in their BN.
It is not the birth certificate number, although it is written there.
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The birth certificate is identified by the issuing Municipality/District, and by the information from the book of births (year, volume, page, line)
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Birth number is INDEPENDENT of the birth certificate.
According to the law, birth certificate is ONE of the possible proofs of the birth number
It consists of the date of birth in the format YYMMDD, while for women, 50 is added to the number of the month - e.g. 665511 for a woman born on May 11, 1966, while 660511 for a man born on the same day.
Then there is a slash, and after that a "serial" number (3 digits) comes, which makes each birth number unique; the last digit is calculated, so that the whole number is divisible by 11. (i.e. the last number is the BN modulo 11).
People born before c. 1955 (I am not sure about the year) do not have the last digit in their BN.
It is not the birth certificate number, although it is written there.
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Note added at 13 mins (2005-10-11 09:42:25 GMT)
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The birth certificate is identified by the issuing Municipality/District, and by the information from the book of births (year, volume, page, line)
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Note added at 18 mins (2005-10-11 09:47:21 GMT)
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Birth number is INDEPENDENT of the birth certificate.
According to the law, birth certificate is ONE of the possible proofs of the birth number
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Jan Fatara
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Comment: "Thank you very much to you all for very informative answers. In Poland it's called PESEL number and is similar to the Czech birth number in the sense that it contains a similary coded date of birth. Now I am completely clear what it is, thanks again. P."
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Michaela Drabova
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rodne cislo
it looks like "rodne cislo", something like identification number each citizen gets by birth
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for example this person was born in 1955
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for example this person was born in 1955
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rodné čislo
It does refer to the Bird Certificate Number, 550403/332: 50-Year of Birth, 04-Month of Birth, 03-Day of Birth, 332-Birth Number (ID).
Person born in Czech Republic (and in Slovakia as well for that matter) are "numbered" at their birth according to this system.
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Well, sorry for the "Typos", I tried to be the first :) (birD=birth, Year of birth 55, not 50)
Person born in Czech Republic (and in Slovakia as well for that matter) are "numbered" at their birth according to this system.
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Well, sorry for the "Typos", I tried to be the first :) (birD=birth, Year of birth 55, not 50)
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