Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

alcanotérreos

English translation:

alkaline earth metals

Added to glossary by Chanda Danley
Sep 26, 2006 06:37
17 yrs ago
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Spanish term

alcanotérreos

Spanish to English Science Biology (-tech,-chem,micro-)
Además, el 10 % de la materia que lo compone es en su mayoría material mineral (ceniza), en su mayor parte carbonatos y alcanotérreos, juntamente con silicio

Discussion

Dr. Andrew Frankland Sep 26, 2006:
Summary: Alkaline earth metals is wrong IN THIS CONTEXT, as is silicon. None of these exist as the pure elements in nature. In other contexts it would be the correct translation. The source document apparently has many errors, and this is one of them.
Dr. Andrew Frankland Sep 26, 2006:
Silicon is also not found native. This most probably refers to silica (silicon dioxide).
Chanda Danley (asker) Sep 26, 2006:
Now I just made a mistake...I meant 'Alcalinotérreos'...no wonder I couldn't figure it out.
Dr. Andrew Frankland Sep 26, 2006:
It cannot be the metals themselves, then, as they react rather vigourously with water.
Chanda Danley (asker) Sep 26, 2006:
Alcanlinotérreos would be the word I was looking for...this source document has many errors. Thanks all of you for your help in identifying this problem.
Chanda Danley (asker) Sep 26, 2006:
Context - a document talking about the use of active carbon for water purification.
Dr. Andrew Frankland Sep 26, 2006:
What's the context? The alkaline earth metals are unlikely to be present as the metals themselves.

Proposed translations

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Spanish term (edited): alcalinotérreos
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alkaline earth metals

alcalinotérreos

El nombre de alcalinotérreos proviene del nombre que recibían sus óxidos, tierras, que tienen propiedades básicas (alcalinas).


The alkaline earth metals are the series of elements in Group 2 (IUPAC style) of the periodic table: beryllium (Be), magnesium (Mg), calcium (Ca), strontium (Sr), barium (Ba) and radium (Ra) (though radium is not always considered an alkaline earth due to its radioactivity).

The alkaline earth metals are named after their oxides, the alkaline earths, whose old-fashioned names were beryllia, magnesia, lime, strontia and baryta. These were named alkaline earths because of their intermediate nature between the alkalis (oxides of the alkali metals) and the rare earths (oxides of rare earth metals). The classification of some apparently inert substances as 'earths' is millennia old. The earliest known system used by the ancient Greeks consisted of four elements, including earth. This system was later refined by philosophers and alchemists such as Aristotle (4th century BC), Paracelsus (first half of 16th century), John Becher (mid 17th century) and Georg Stahl (late 17th century), with later thinkers subdividing 'earth' into three or more types. The realization that 'earths' were not elements but compounds is attributed to the chemist Antoine Lavoisier. In his Traité Élémentaire de Chimie (Elements of Chemistry) of 1789 he called them Substances simples salifiables terreuses, or salt-forming earth elements. Later, he suggested that the alkaline earths might be metal oxides, but admitted that this was mere conjecture. In 1808, acting on Lavoisier's idea, Humphry Davy became the first to obtain samples of the metals by electrolysis of their molten earths.



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http://europa.eu.int/eurodicautom/Controller
Peer comment(s):

agree Paulo César Mendes MD, CT : Parfait!
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Thank's!MLD
agree David Brown : exactly
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Thank's!MLD
disagree Dr. Andrew Frankland : The presence of alkaline earth metals under these circumstances is chemically impossible! The asker has mentioned that there are many mistakes in the source text.
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I don't agree with you Mr. Frankland!MLD
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for everyone's help, but I think this is best in this context...all things considered, I am not responsible for correcting the source text, only for translating it."
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Spanish term (edited): alcalinotérreos

alkaline earth metal oxides

As the metals themselves are not found naturally and are not likely to be produced under biological conditions, and as the context given refers to carbonates, minerals and silica, this is my suggestion derived from the original definition of "alkaline earths", i.e. the minerals beryllia, magnesia, lime, strontia and baryta, which are the oxides of Be, Mg, Ca, Sr and Ba, respectively.

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http://www.answers.com/topic/alkaline-earth
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alkaline metals (alcalinotérreos?)

The second column in the periodic table.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-09-26 08:52:27 GMT)
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In ash, they are most probably oxides or carbonates. As the source document lists the elements without specifying the exact compounds, I think it is reasonable to write "...mostly carbonates and alkaline earth metals, as well as silicon."

NB.: NOT "alkaline earth metal carbonates"

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Note added at 1 day7 hrs (2006-09-27 13:47:43 GMT)
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The author just stated that the ash contains "[elements] A, B, C, ... and Z", without elaborating on the exact compounds they are forming, probably because this is not relevant to the subject; i.e., the filter's biological characteristics (I presume). He just stated that "[elements] A, B, C, ... and Z are present".

"Carbonatos" is most probably an indirect alusion to the ash's carbon content.
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neutral Dr. Andrew Frankland : That would make it alkaline EARTH metals. Many people, even some chemists, fail to distinguish between the alkali metals (group 1) and the alkaline earth metals (group 2).
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Indeed, you are right
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