Sep 18, 2022 09:09
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Spanish term

fanega

Spanish to English Law/Patents Real Estate Land registry
From a reference to land registry or similar documents from Spain for translation to British English

"Tierra en termino de [municipal area] y sitio de [a locality within that area] de caber una fanega [x] celemines igual a [y] áreas treinta y [z] centiáreas, que linda: ..."

I can only find "bushel", a measure of volume as a translation of "fanega", so, does it have a translation as a unit of area?

Discussion

patinba Sep 19, 2022:
Fanega I do not see the need for this question, as the context clearly tells you what it is:
"una fanega IGUAL A [y] áreas y [z] centíáreas""
Taña Dalglish Sep 18, 2022:
@ Helena Not at all, Helena! Pleeease. Your own contribution is very valid as you added further information, i.e. "fanegada", so there is absolutely no need to apologise. Regards.
Helena Chavarria Sep 18, 2022:
@Taña I apologise for posting. I admit that I didn't even try looking in the glossary as I presumed that there wouldn't be an entry.

When I posted, I was so busy trying to stick to the KudoZ rules (we have to try and keep everyonne happy) that I forgot the golden rule of not repeating annswers!
Taña Dalglish Sep 18, 2022:
@ Phil Wilcox and Sonia Abad Already in glossary (I will not contribute further as I contributed to this entry), but simply to say, leave the term "fanega" (or "fanegada", if that is what you choose?) along with an explanation, as the term varies by country and indeed by region.
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/real-estate/55...

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fanegada

5,248 m2

En España, en algunos lugares, como por ejemplo en Valencia, una hanegada son 831 m²; en Castilla equivale a 576 estadales cuadrados, lo que en el sistema métrico decimal equivale a 64,596 áreas, 6.459,6 m² o 0,64596 hectáreas; también en Canarias, una fanegada son 5.248 m² o 0,52 hectáreas.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanegada#:~:text=En España, en...

It appears that it can be written with either an 'h' or an 'f', as so often happens.

fanegada
1. f Medida agraria cuyo valor, aunque diferente en las distintas islas, oscila alrededor de los 5000 metros cuadrados. Hace unos años, una finca de plataneras de dos fanegadas daba para vivir bien una familia.

https://www.academiacanarialengua.org/diccionario/entrada/fa...

It would help if we knew whereabouts the land is, as the size of a 'fanegada' doesn't seem to be the same everywhere.

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You might find this helpful.

Equivalencias medidas rusticas y actuales

Equivalencias medidas rusticas y actuales. Equivalencias entre las medidas rusticas antiguas y las del sistema métrico decimal.
Equivalencias entre las medidas usadas para predios rústicos en cada provincia española y las del sistema métrico decimal.

https://www.tecnicoagricola.es/equivalencias-medidas-rustica...
Peer comment(s):

agree MPGS : :-)
56 mins
Thank you very much :-)
agree philgoddard : I think the askers could have Googled this. And I don't think you should convert it into square metres, because it varies from place to place.
3 hrs
Yes, I think so too, as since I started researching the term, I've found a lot of information from reliable sources. Cheers, Phil :-)
agree AllegroTrans : Yes, but with a translator's note
11 hrs
Yes. I've been thinking that in my lifetime there have been many changes and I suppose they would also require a t.n. How many people can remember how much 3/6 is or a shilling? Thank you, AllegroTrans :-)?
agree Yvonne Gallagher
11 days
Thank you, Yvonne :-)
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"fanega" (Spanish bushel), land measure equivalent to 64 ares, 6,459.6 sq m (square meters)

fanega = medida de superficie = "misura agraria equivalente a 64 are" -> "fanega" (Spanish bushel), land measure equivalent to 64 ares, 6,459.6 sq m (square meters)

Vocabulari - UPV
http://www.upv.es › upl
PDF
es fanega f en grain measure equivalent to 55.5 litres
fr fanègue f fanecada f. 2580
es hanegada f
en land measure equivalent to. 6,459.6 sqM
https://www.upv.es/upl/U0552821.pdf

The square meter, also called the meter squared, is the Standard International (SI) unit of area. The symbol for square meter is m2. Less formally, square meter is sometimes abbreviated sq m.
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/square-meter-me...

The fanega or Spanish bushel was an old measure of dry capacity in Spanish-speaking countries. It was generally used in an agricultural context to measure quantities of grain. The measure varied greatly, but in Castile, it was equivalent to roughly 55.5 liters.
It was also a measure of surface area that was further subdivided into 100 varas, or the amount of land that could be sown with a fanega of seed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanega

Fanega
La fanega es una unidad de medida de la metrología tradicional española, anterior al establecimiento y la implantación del sistema métrico decimal. Es tanto una unidad de volumen o capacidad como una unidad de superficie, con gran variabilidad según la región. En el marco de Castilla, la conversión es 55,5 litros de capacidad o * 6459.6 metros cuadrados * para la fanega de superficie.
Se utilizaba para medir productos agrícolas (especialmente cereales) o áridos, y fincas agrícolas.
Se divide en dos cuartos, cuatro cuartillas o doce celemines
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https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanega


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value dependent on the country in which it is being used
- Mexico : 8.81 acres, 3.57 hectares
- Spain (Castilla) : 6459.6 square meters

fanega - in British English

a unit of capacity, mass or land area used in Spanish-speaking countries, its value dependent on the country in which it is being used
Husbandmen rate their fields by the amount of wheat necessary to sow them: and thus speak of fanega land - a fanega being a measure of about two bushels

fanega - in American English
sostantivo parola: plural -gas (-ɡəz, Spanish -ɡɑːs)
1. a unit of dry measure in Spanish-speaking countries, equal in Spain to 1.58 U.S. bushels (55.7 liters)
2. a Mexican unit of land measure, equal to 8.81 acres (3.57 hectares)
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/it/dizionario/inglese/fane...

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fanega = fanega land (approx. two bushels)
Peer comment(s):

agree MPGS : :-) value dependent on region or country
52 mins
thanks - *unit of land measure* - see my last link https://www.collinsdictionary.com/it/dizionario/inglese/fane... - Asker wrote: "From a reference to land registry or similar documents from *Spain*" -
neutral philgoddard : Too much information (we know what a square metre is), too much bold.
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land measurement unit (of approx. 64 m2)

... in Castile (Harrap's) > 1.59 acres (agri., Simon & Schuster).

and is what I used out of fear of fanega or fanegada being mixed up by monolingual English readers with an old fogey or faggot.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A. : Depends on Region and Country. The *unit of land measure* is already explained in my last reference, above: "fanega - in American English 2. a *unit of land measure*, equal to ..."
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neutral Taña Dalglish : Seriously, dude? I see you've referred to my own entry from a previous glossed entry. However, the explanation "... or faggot", is that appropriate or necessary on this forum? I don't think so!
3 hrs
neutral AllegroTrans : "old fogey or faggot"? Why must you insist on such crude irrelevance? Do you seriously think this kind of thing is useful to other translators?
8 hrs
neutral philgoddard : (a) It's not 64 square metres, and (b) "faggot" was a generalised term of abuse in the UK about fifty years ago. But once again, this is the twenty-first century and its meaning has changed - you should look it up.
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bushel of land

The bushel, with 100 square areas, is equivalent to 59 centimeters, 59 square decimeters, or 1.6 square spans.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Taña Dalglish : https://www.sizes.com/units/fanega.htm It is clear from the heading that it is land that is meant. Bushel refers to capacity (e.g. corn). In Spain, 20ᵗʰ century, a unit of dry capacity, about 55.501 liters (about 1.57 U.S. bushel).
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