Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

closer to the norm

English answer:

is more frequently seen

Added to glossary by Yvonne Gallagher
Mar 25 19:49
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English term

closer to the norm

English Social Sciences General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters Disclaimer di un libro
Dear colleagues,
I'm not completely sure about the meaning of "closer to the norm" in the passage below about alexithymia, the inability to name emotions. Does it mean "very common"? But if this were the meaning, I don't understand why the author says "however", since the previous sentence also says this is a trait in many people... Maybe "closer to the norm" is stronger than "common" and means "nearly all my patients"?
Thank you so much for your attention!

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Not having words for feelings, the concept of alexithymia (Taylor, 2000), represents a body of research exploring what has been found to be a trait in many people. In my clinical practice, however, a relative alexithymia is *** closer to the norm *** in some people: They often start treatment unable to express both thoughts and feelings. But after an emotion-focused approach to their psychotherapy, their use of emotion words and their experience of being alive in their body has often increased dramatically. In my practice, alexithymia is related to state rather than trait.
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Discussion

haribert (asker) Mar 31:
Dear colleagues, I wish to thank you all for your help! I must say it was difficult for me to choose only one answer, because many of your contributions have been very useful for me (for instance, the synonyms by Michael...). I have chosen Yvonne's answer because it has helped me understand the phrase in context, above all the difference between trait and state.
Happy holidays to all of you!

Responses

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is more frequently seen

an explanation of the "however"

"...the concept of alexithymia[...] has been found to be a trait in many people.
HOWEVER a relative alexithymia is more frequently seen/observed (in my clinical practice
BECAUSE (patients) often start treatment unable to express both thoughts and feelings. [...] After treatment and therapy, "their use of emotion words and their experience of being alive in their body has often increased dramatically.
In my practice, alexithymia is related to state rather than trait.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-prof...

"Absolute stability is reached if people with alexithymia score the same on an alexithymia scale over time. Relative stability refers to temporal stability or people's relative position on levels of alexithymia, even though their absolute score may change."

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Glad to have helped. Hope you had a good Easter

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I'm also working! I visited my sister in hospital yesterday as she fell, broke her femur and cracked 2 ribs last Thursday with an opersation on Friday to insert a plate:-(

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Thank you Haribert!
Note from asker:
Thank you so much, Yvonne, for your clear explanation!
Hi, dear Yvonne, I had to work a little bit, but the weather was bad so it was ok... Hope you had good Easter, too!
Oh, I'm really sorry for your sister... I wish her to get well soon! A big hug to you!
Peer comment(s):

agree AllegroTrans : This works well
1 hr
Many thanks:-)
agree Michael Beijer
5 days
Many thanks:-) That's generous of you
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you so much, Yvonne, for your help! Many thanks also to all other colleagues for their contribution! Happy Easter holidays!"
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5 mins

[see below]

some synonyms:

closer to the norm =
• More commonplace
• More typical
• Rather standard
• Frequently observed
• Not uncommon
• Relatively usual
• More often the rule than the exception
• Somewhat expected
• Tending towards the standard
• A common occurrence
• closer to what is generally seen in people
• etc.
Note from asker:
Thank you so much, Michael, for your help! Really useful synonyms!
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard
1 hr
Thanks!
agree AllegroTrans : synonyms are always useful
14 hrs
thanks!
agree Lara Barnett
14 hrs
thanks!
agree Christopher Schröder
17 hrs
thanks!
agree Anastasia Kalantzi
18 hrs
thanks!
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39 mins

É mais comum

In my opinion, the author means that most people have a "relative alexithymia" (as in a temporary state), rather than "alexithymia" as an actual a trait (as suggested by research).

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Please ignore the title. I've mistakenly translated that term to Portuguese.
Note from asker:
Thank you very much! May I ask what "è mais comum" means?
maybe you can post your answer again, with the title in English...because I think your remark is very useful!
Peer comment(s):

neutral Yvonne Gallagher : yes, you got close to the meaning
18 hrs
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10 hrs
English term (edited): relative alexithymia is closer to the norm ... however

a relative alexithymia is close to be the most usual ... however we can improve on that


**At the beginning**:
a relative (mild?) alexithymia is quite usual, almost "the norm"

which is implied to be an undesirable trait, thus the "however"

as **after some therapy**, this can be changed (/improved):
their use of emotion words and their experience of being alive in their body has often increased dramatically.

Simpler version:

It starts not so good, however we can fix it.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Daryo, for your attempt... I also had difficulty in understanding "closer to the norm" in this context initially...
Peer comment(s):

neutral AllegroTrans : ...is close to BEING the MORE usual // Should've gone to Specsavers?
3 hrs
My mistake - should've reread more carefully.
disagree Christopher Schröder : Grammar aside, I disagree with your explanation. I see no sense of undesirable.
6 hrs
I'm talking of how it's seen by psychotherapists, like the one writing this ST, never mind if you or I or anyone else agrees with that or not!
neutral Yvonne Gallagher : not what the "however" means
8 hrs
You made me recheck how "however" is used, and I can't see how my explanation wouldn't make sense.// Like other uses of "however," this implies **a contrast to the previous content**, ... etc https://www.wikihow.com/Use-However
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17 hrs
English term (edited): relative alexithymia is closer to the norm in some people

alexithymia is relative and less far form the standards for some people

That's what I interpret from reading the whole text:

In some people, alexithymia is relative and thus, closer to what society admits in terms of lack of emotions.

Hope it helps.

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Note from asker:
Thank you very much, Susana, for your contribution!
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