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contraente

10:37 Jun 14, 2023
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Certificates, Diplomas, Licenses, CVs / certidão de casamento entre homossexuais
Portuguese term or phrase: contraente
Estou traduzindo uma certidão de casamento entre dois homens. Bride e groom não serviriam. Talvez first and second party?
Katia Orberg


Summary of answers provided
4 +1just use their names
Douglas Bissell
4 +1newlyweds
Laureano Brito
4husband and husband/party one and party two
ZT-Translations
4spouse
Bett
4party
jack_speak
2 +1spouse / spouse-to-be
Ana Vozone
3prospective marriage partner
Adrian MM.
Summary of reference entries provided
see
liz askew

Discussion entries: 1





  

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21 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
just use their names


Explanation:
Wedding certificate of Bill and Ben

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Note added at 23 mins (2023-06-14 11:01:15 GMT)
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Google search gay wedding certificate

Douglas Bissell
Portugal
Local time: 03:39
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 44

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nick Taylor: Makes sense
22 hrs
disagree  Bett: that is the label for the field in a certificate, so you have spouse 1: name name name, spouse2: name name name.
8 days
agree  Mary Palmer: I would say "marriage certificate".
201 days
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
husband and husband/party one and party two


Explanation:
Eu diria que "husband and husband", ou até "groom and groom" serviriam. Simplificando, o casamento de dois homens não passa disso. Concordo que "bride and groom" não seria aceitável, pois iria criar infinitas questões e passar vários tipos de conotações consideradas sexistas, então acho que a melhor maneira de abordar isso, seria simplificar tudo e ir à essência, que são duas pessoas casando, quando o homem se casa, ele é o "groom" ou o "husband", então acredito que seja só repetir o mesmo papel em casos como este. Porém, se o local for conservador, ou tiver restrições com esta nomenclatura, uma forma mais evasiva e usada no mundo legal dos certificados é "Party One" and "Party Two"

Espero que ajude!


    https://www.cudmorelegal.com.au/newlywed/5-things-you-should-know-about-obtaining-your-marriage-certificate/
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/14/fashion/i-now-pronounce-you-husband-and-husband.html
ZT-Translations
Brazil
Local time: 23:39
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 12
Notes to answerer
Asker: Concordo com você, preferi usar termos mais neutros, (the first party, the second party). Sou tradutora juramentada e essa tradução vai para algum órgão público em algum país de língua inglesa. A palavra "contraente" aparece várias vezes, pois, além da certidão de casamento, há também a averbação de divórcio.

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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
spouse / spouse-to-be


Explanation:
Would this work?

https://epgn.com/2019/03/07/getting-married-here-s-your-lega...



Ana Vozone
Local time: 03:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 55

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew Bramhall: This sounds the best answer to me;
16 hrs
  -> Thank you, Andrew!
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
prospective marriage partner


Explanation:
if numbered as in a UK contract, though makes it even longer: 'of the one part' and 'of the other part' vs. AmE: 'of the first part' & 'of the second part' (in BrE, the latter might imply a polygamous marriage with more numbered parties, continuing with a third and a fourth part....

Example sentence(s):
  • OZ & NZ: You must be sponsored by your prospective spouse (note that certain individuals are prohibited from being approved as a sponsor)
  • USA: For instance, last week I eschewed “partner” for the first time in referring to Jim when I introduced him at party in our small North Carolina town: “This is my husband ….”

    Reference: http://eng.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-portuguese/law-general/...
    Reference: http://www.hitched.co.uk/wedding-planning/ceremony-and-recep...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: No. 'Prospective' means ' potential', and it's beyond that stage here.
14 hrs
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
newlyweds


Explanation:
Thais might do, I believe

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Note added at 14 horas (2023-06-15 00:39:40 GMT)
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Laureano Brito
Brazil
Local time: 23:39
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: They aren't married yet!!
16 hrs
agree  Mary Palmer: Agree. They are obviously already married since he clearly said he is translating a "marriage certificate".
201 days
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1 day 1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
spouse


Explanation:
I have seen several times spouse 1 and spouse 2

Bett
Local time: 23:39
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Andrew Bramhall: What, since you've been married to spouse 3, you mean??(lol)
5 days
  -> trouples are not legal, yet....
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5 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
party


Explanation:
If you wanted to stay neutral, just say party. You don't have to say party one and party two unless it appears that way in the original as contraente e contraente dois.

jack_speak
Local time: 22:39
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 30
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Reference comments


3 hrs
Reference: see

Reference information:
https://www.younghipandmarried.com/ceremonies/lgbtq-wedding-...

liz askew
United Kingdom
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 12
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