"nkew" or "N.Q."

English translation: Thank you

11:23 Feb 16, 2021
English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary - General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters / London accent (or Southern English pronunciation)
English term or phrase: "nkew" or "N.Q."
Hello!
The expression is taken from a George Orwell article published in 1945 in the UK weekly, the Leader Magazine. Orwell complains about the state of pronunciation in the south of England, including London. He gives a couple of examples, I only quote part of the paragraph:

"Most of us now speak in so slovenly a way that if you ask for a threepenny bus ticket you are as often as not given a three- halfpenny one, or vice versa. And how exactly would one write down the mystic formula which any two Londoners invariably utter after concluding a transaction? The nearest you could come to it would be “nkew,” or perhaps simply “N.Q.” Or take the current pronunciation of such words as “passionate,” “deliberate,” “vegetable,” “actual” or “average...”

Does anybody know what this "mystic formula", or "nkew" is about? And can you give a more explanatory context than the "concluding of a transaction"?
Thank you.
vitaminBcomplex
Local time: 03:19
Selected answer:Thank you
Explanation:
He is referring to "thank you" prononounced by Londoners in such a way as to sound like "nkew" or "NQ"

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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-02-16 15:30:17 GMT)
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I live in the south of England but I often hear this simply as "kew" or "Q." - i.e. with no "n" sound at all.

Really, Orwell's criticism of "slovenly" speech could be about pactically every accent and dilaect of every language on earth. "Clipping" of speech is prevalent everywhere.
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AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:19
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Thank you very much!
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
5 +3Thank you
AllegroTrans
4 -1Notes and Queries
Claudia Sander
3Thank you
Victoria Britten


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9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Notes and Queries


Explanation:
He refers to Notes and Queries, a long-running quarterly scholarly journal that publishes short articles related to "English language and literature, lexicography, history, and scholarly antiquarianism".[1] Its emphasis is on "the factual rather than the speculative".The journal has a long history, having been established in 1849 in London; it is now published by Oxford University Press.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_and_Queries
    https://global.oup.com/academic/product/notes-and-queries-14716941?cc=br&lang=en&
Claudia Sander
Brazil
Local time: 21:19
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese

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disagree  AllegroTrans: No, this is simply about prononciation, not a journal
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38 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
Thank you


Explanation:
I grew up next to London, and have definitely heard something like this: the "th" sound disappears in "slovenly" speech (Orwell's description, not mine!).
It is a nightmare for foreigners, of course, and probably also for people hailing from some other parts of the anglophone world (including in Britain), but is fairly standard in and around (south) London.

Victoria Britten
France
Local time: 02:19
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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29 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +3
"nkew" or "n.q."
Thank you


Explanation:
He is referring to "thank you" prononounced by Londoners in such a way as to sound like "nkew" or "NQ"

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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-02-16 15:30:17 GMT)
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I live in the south of England but I often hear this simply as "kew" or "Q." - i.e. with no "n" sound at all.

Really, Orwell's criticism of "slovenly" speech could be about pactically every accent and dilaect of every language on earth. "Clipping" of speech is prevalent everywhere.

AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 01:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 52
Grading comment
Thank you very much!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Liane Lazoski
5 mins
  -> thanks

agree  Victoria Britten: Yes indeed: you must have posted this while I was writing my comment!
10 mins
  -> kew!

agree  Sheila Wilson
2 hrs
  -> thanks
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