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licitações e ofertas

English translation: public tenders(govt.)/bids(priv.) and proposals/offers

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Portuguese term or phrase:licitações e ofertas
English translation:public tenders(govt.)/bids(priv.) and proposals/offers
Entered by: Felipe Tomasi

15:12 Jul 27, 2023
Portuguese to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Government / Politics
Portuguese term or phrase: licitações e ofertas
"No Brasil, a legislação que estabelece diretrizes para as compras públicas sustentáveis é a Lei nº 8.666, que dispõe sobre as licitações e contratos administrativos, bem como o novo marco normativo das licitações, Lei nº 14.133, que dispõe sobre as licitações e ofertas do serviço público".

In American English, how to distinguish these two? Bid/Bidding and Tender/Tendering? Or could be synonyms? TIA for the answers.
Felipe Tomasi
Brazil
Local time: 18:29
public tender and proposals
Explanation:
Apesar de muita gente usar o termo "licitação" para processos de concorrências normais (bids), esse termo se refere exclusivamente a processos de concorrência promovidos por órgãos do governo. Se não for do governo NÃO É licitação, é apenas um processo de concorrência. O mesmo ocorre em inglês. "Bid" é um processo de concorrência normal. Se for do governo é "public tender".
https://www.google.com.br/search?q="public tender"&client=fi...
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Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 18:29
Grading comment
This was the most useful and comprehensive response to my context.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2public tender and proposals
Mario Freitas
5(public) acquisitions/procurements and bid offers
Oliver Simões
3 +1bids and offers
Ana Vozone
3 +1bids
Douglas Bissell
4RFQ and RFP
Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.
3bids and proposals
Chloë McQuarrie
3bids and offers
Ana Vozone
2public tendering and private bidding (for a contract by private treaty)
Adrian MM.


Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
bids and proposals


Explanation:
I see them as synonyms, and in this instance and I would use bids and proposals.

Chloë McQuarrie
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:29
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
bids and offers


Explanation:
Mais uma sugestão.

Example sentence(s):
  • National Grid accepts Bids and Offers as required to balance the electricity on the Transmission System. Accepted Bids and Offers for individual BSC Parties
  • The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) requires a list of the best bids and offers available on exchanges.
Ana Vozone
Local time: 22:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 60

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew Bramhall: They are not necessarily synonyms;
18 mins
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27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
public tender and proposals


Explanation:
Apesar de muita gente usar o termo "licitação" para processos de concorrências normais (bids), esse termo se refere exclusivamente a processos de concorrência promovidos por órgãos do governo. Se não for do governo NÃO É licitação, é apenas um processo de concorrência. O mesmo ocorre em inglês. "Bid" é um processo de concorrência normal. Se for do governo é "public tender".
https://www.google.com.br/search?q="public tender"&client=fi...

Mario Freitas
Brazil
Local time: 18:29
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 120
Grading comment
This was the most useful and comprehensive response to my context.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Nick Taylor: From decades of seeing this, this is the way I would translate it.
11 mins
  -> Cheers, my friend. People usually make confusion between bids (private) and tenders (govt).
agree  Clauwolf
45 mins
  -> Obrigado, Cláudio!
neutral  philgoddard: Sorry, but this is a muddled argument. They may have different meanings in Portuguese, I don't know, but tender, bid and proposal are synonyms in English. And the plural of tender is tenders.
1 hr
  -> They are also synonyms in Portuguese, but one is more commonly used for govt. procurement (licitações), just like in English (public tender).
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50 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
bids


Explanation:
They are synonyms in this case so no second word is required

Douglas Bissell
Portugal
Local time: 22:29
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 43

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  philgoddard
1 hr
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
(public) acquisitions/procurements and bid offers


Explanation:
De acordo com Marcílio Moreira de Castro:

licitação. (dir. administrativo) (government) acquisition/procurement (process); (public) procurement; competitive bidding; bidding process. Em português, o termo licitação possui os seguintes sinônimos: certame; certame licitatório. Nota: as licitações, em âmbito federal nos Estados Unidos, são regidas pela Federal Acquisition Regulation (Title 48 of the United States Code of Federal Regulations).
Esta norma se refere à licitação como (government) acquisition process ou simplesmente acquisition. Expressões relacionadas são formadas em torno do termo acquisition. Por exemplo, comissão de licitação é acquisition
commission. No âmbito da Organização Mundial do Comércio, as licitações públicas são reguladas por meio do Agreement on Government Procurement (GPA). In Dicionário de Economia, Direito e Contabilidade, p. 242.

PS: O termo "procurement" é frequentemente usado nos Estados Unidos. Quando tive um negócio online, participei de algumas licitações ("procurements") do AZTEDP (Arizona Telecommunications Equipment Distribution Program).

Portal do Arizona State Procurement Office (Escritório de Licitações do Estado do Arizona): https://spo.az.gov/

bid offers: https://www.google.com/search?q="bid offers"

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Note added at 1 hr (2023-07-27 16:30:14 GMT)
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Procurement is usually open to anyone who wishes to participate, therefore "public" sounds kind of redundant IMHO.

Oliver Simões
United States
Local time: 14:29
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 12
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
public tendering and private bidding (for a contract by private treaty)


Explanation:
I agree with the asker on the tendering vs. bidding divide.

I had not heard of Tender Offer before until a Canadian law lecturer at London Uni. used the term, so am unsure how it is used, but it seems confined to a bid to buy out some or all of shareholders' stock in a corporation.

Even so, having worked over 30 years ago on the FRE>ENG translation of the winning Eurotunnel construction proposal / with a financial part and technical spec., I disagree that the process had been one of a contract tender or bid.

The quote of ofertas do serviço público may be slightly misleading as private contractors can be integrated into the process > see the second example sentence.

... a contract by private treaty> usual in private sales of goods and land. Over to out contract experts....


Example sentence(s):
  • IATE> pt proposta oferta COM en tender bid offer
  • São importantes para integrar agentes +privados+ na prestação de serviços públicos ou no fornecimento de bens. A transparência é essencial nesse tipo de parceria.

    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/portuguese-to-english/bus-financia...
    Reference: http://www.politize.com.br/como-servicos-publicos-sao-presta...
Adrian MM.
Austria
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
RFQ and RFP


Explanation:
A Request of Quotation (RFQ) is a competitive bid document used when inviting suppliers or contractors to submit a price bid for products or services where the requirements ...

A request for proposal (RFP) is a business document that announces a project, describes it, and solicits bids from qualified contractors to complete it.

Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.
Ecuador
Local time: 16:29
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in EnglishEnglish
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5 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
bids and offers


Explanation:
Mais uma sugestão.

Example sentence(s):
  • National Grid accepts Bids and Offers as required to balance the electricity on the Transmission System. Accepted Bids and Offers for individual BSC Parties
  • The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) requires a list of the best bids and offers available on exchanges.
Ana Vozone
Local time: 22:29
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 60
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