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Poll: Have you ever compared your prices/services to your peers'?
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Jan 4, 2023

This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "Have you ever compared your prices/services to your peers'?".

This poll was originally submitted by Iulia P.. View the poll results »



 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Bồ Đào Nha
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English to Portuguese
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Other Jan 4, 2023

When I started out translating full-time in 1985 (Proz wasn’t even born) in Brussels I did search around what the charging range was in order to set my rates. Then, 30 years later when I moved back to Lisbon in 2015, I thought of adapting my rates to the Portuguese market, but finally it made no sense at all to reduce my rates as I had exactly the same client base as before. Since then, I've occasionally raised my rates...

Iulia Parvu
Yaotl Altan
 
Tom in London
Tom in London
Vương Quốc Anh
Local time: 10:00
Thành viên kể từ 2008
Italian to English
I do it all the time Jan 4, 2023

ProZ.com Staff wrote:

This forum topic is for the discussion of the poll question "Have you ever compared your prices/services to your peers'?".

This poll was originally submitted by Iulia P.. View the poll results »



I do it all the time


Iulia Parvu
Aline Amorim
Nikolay Novitskiy
 
Lieven Malaise
Lieven Malaise
Bỉ
Local time: 11:00
Thành viên kể từ 2020
French to Dutch
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I set my own rates. Jan 4, 2023

I started in 2005 with a word rate of 0.07 euros (advised by a PM of the agency I worked for during 5 years). Today I charge from 0.08 to 0.09 euros and I'm perfectly fine with that. I think it's low enough to get a lot of work being a senior translator. At the same time it's high enough to provide me with a very decent income, thanks to my high daily translation capacity.

It's interesting to see what other translators charge, but you can't actually know what they are really chargin
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I started in 2005 with a word rate of 0.07 euros (advised by a PM of the agency I worked for during 5 years). Today I charge from 0.08 to 0.09 euros and I'm perfectly fine with that. I think it's low enough to get a lot of work being a senior translator. At the same time it's high enough to provide me with a very decent income, thanks to my high daily translation capacity.

It's interesting to see what other translators charge, but you can't actually know what they are really charging. Some have negotiable rates and set their rates extra high, just to be able to lower it during negotiations.
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Iulia Parvu
Aline Amorim
 
No Jan 4, 2023

How?

expressisverbis
Kuochoe Nikoi-Kotei
 
Christine Andersen
Christine Andersen  Identity Verified
Đan Mạch
Local time: 11:00
Thành viên kể từ 2003
Danish to English
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Anonymous comparisons at powwows Jan 4, 2023

On several occasions we compared rates anonymously at the Danish powwow.

The basic procedure was that people wrote their rates on slips of paper, and one of the more mathematically minded attendees then made a chart showing the results. The details varied from year to year.

It was a little difficult, because many of us charge different rates for different language pairs and different subject areas, but Danish was always one of the languages. Otherwise there were too few
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On several occasions we compared rates anonymously at the Danish powwow.

The basic procedure was that people wrote their rates on slips of paper, and one of the more mathematically minded attendees then made a chart showing the results. The details varied from year to year.

It was a little difficult, because many of us charge different rates for different language pairs and different subject areas, but Danish was always one of the languages. Otherwise there were too few examples to keep it anonymous.
It was still only a small sample, but we had some good discussions.

As a matter of principle I never go below the standard average shown on the Community rates page, and I usually charge more.
https://search.proz.com/employers/rates?source_lang=dan&target_lang=eng&disc_spec_id=¤cy=eur&view_old_rates=1&submit=Submit

Colleagues have sometimes told me what they charge for specific jobs when we work together, and then I adjust my rate for the same client, but on the whole I set my own rates. They vary quite a lot, depending on the type of work.
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Iulia Parvu
 
Tom in London
Tom in London
Vương Quốc Anh
Local time: 10:00
Thành viên kể từ 2008
Italian to English
HIgh enough Jan 4, 2023

Lieven Malaise wrote:

...... Some have negotiable rates and set their rates extra high, just to be able to lower it during negotiations.


My rate is high enough to keep me happy, and to keep away the kinds of jobs I don't want. But not so high that it scares people off. It's higher than the average in my language pair, but that's only because the rates in my language pair are very low. The main thing is that from a client's viewpoint, it's a rate that gets you a first-class translation, delivered to the highest professional standard, at a very reasonable cost - so compared to others, including some who may charge less, I am the translator you want.

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Lieven Malaise
Iulia Parvu
Philip Lees
Hayley Wakenshaw
 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Bồ Đào Nha
Local time: 10:00
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English to Portuguese
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I have been doing the same... Jan 4, 2023

Christine Andersen wrote:

As a matter of principle I never go below the standard average shown on the Community rates page, and I usually charge more.
https://search.proz.com/employers/rates?source_lang=dan&target_lang=eng&disc_spec_id=��cy=eur&view_old_rates=1&submit=Submit

Colleagues have sometimes told me what they charge for specific jobs when we work together, and then I adjust my rate for the same client, but on the whole I set my own rates. They vary quite a lot, depending on the type of work.


Iulia Parvu
 
Angie Garbarino
Angie Garbarino  Identity Verified
Local time: 11:00
Thành viên kể từ 2003
French to Italian
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Yes Jan 4, 2023

My rates are different depending on the pair, as I also provide translations in a (relatively) rare pair (DU-ITA), my rates are in line with the ones of my peers.

Happy 2023 to all of you!


Iulia Parvu
Dina Lebedieva
 
Nikolay Novitskiy
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Liên bang Nga
Local time: 15:00
Thành viên kể từ 2018
English to Russian
Not a patch Jan 5, 2023

I've talked to over 140 other translators. And I was the paraphrase the phrase in my old neighborghood. The rest of them is not a patch in my jeans. If I set the rate I need to set.

 
Kay Denney
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Pháp
Local time: 11:00
French to English
. Jan 5, 2023

I set my rates based on what I knew of the industry having worked in a high-end boutique agency that was then bought out by a best-rate high-volume agency. And since then I have stood firm any time anyone has tried to bully me into lowering my rates.
(Ironically the one agency that's tried the hardest to get me to lower my rate is the one that pays me the least already)


Baran Keki
 
Kaspars Melkis
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Vương Quốc Anh
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English to Latvian
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my rates are higher (above €0.10/word) Jan 5, 2023

Which makes me very uneasy because I consider them quite low and in comparison earning money from translation is harder than working as a pharmacist.

I need to raise my rates due to inflation but the situation where many of my peers charge less makes it hard. Most agencies are scared when I tell them my rates. I will raise my rates anyway because the current levels are not sustainable. If I won't get more translation jobs, that will be fine. I will work exclusively as a pharmacist
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Which makes me very uneasy because I consider them quite low and in comparison earning money from translation is harder than working as a pharmacist.

I need to raise my rates due to inflation but the situation where many of my peers charge less makes it hard. Most agencies are scared when I tell them my rates. I will raise my rates anyway because the current levels are not sustainable. If I won't get more translation jobs, that will be fine. I will work exclusively as a pharmacist then. The locum pharmacist rates have increased by up to 100% during last 2-3 years.

I understand that inflation is actually bad and in part it is a phenomena that we all (vendors and workers) raise prices and demand higher salaries. The inflation would become lower if we collectively stop this vicious circle. But I don't want to become a martyr for this cause.
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Baran Keki
Kuochoe Nikoi-Kotei
 
Baran Keki
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Thổ Nhĩ Kỳ
Local time: 13:00
Thành viên
English to Turkish
The Dogs of Riga Jan 5, 2023

Kaspars Melkis wrote:

Which makes me very uneasy because I consider them quite low and in comparison earning money from translation is harder than working as a pharmacist.

I need to raise my rates due to inflation but the situation where many of my peers charge less makes it hard. Most agencies are scared when I tell them my rates. I will raise my rates anyway because the current levels are not sustainable. If I won't get more translation jobs, that will be fine. I will work exclusively as a pharmacist then. The locum pharmacist rates have increased by up to 100% during last 2-3 years.

I understand that inflation is actually bad and in part it is a phenomena that we all (vendors and workers) raise prices and demand higher salaries. The inflation would become lower if we collectively stop this vicious circle. But I don't want to become a martyr for this cause.

But your good colleagues in Latvia are doubtless making a more than decent living over there by charging a lot less than you do in the UK. The same is the case in my language pair. Unlike the agencies you mentioned, I'm actually 'scared' to compare my rates with my 'peers'. What the idiots can't (and will never) comprehend is that they could make an even better living by charging 'normal rates' instead of undercutting each other. But no, that goes against the grain for them. They must take everybody down with them and get off on FX rates... I couldn't live in the UK with what I'm making, and I'm supposed to be a 'digital nomad'? Yeah, right.


 
Tom in London
Tom in London
Vương Quốc Anh
Local time: 10:00
Thành viên kể từ 2008
Italian to English
Hmm Jan 5, 2023

Kaspars Melkis wrote:

..... If I won't get more translation jobs, that will be fine. I will work exclusively as a pharmacist then. The locum pharmacist rates have increased by up to 100% during last 2-3 years.


For many people, such as tenured academics on generous salaries, translation is a sideline and they don't depend on it for a living. Maybe that's the way things are going. So another poll question might be "do you depend entirely on translation to make a living?"

it is a phenomena


NO NO NO ! You're fired !

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Angie Garbarino
 
Kaspars Melkis
Kaspars Melkis  Identity Verified
Vương Quốc Anh
Local time: 10:00
English to Latvian
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Good idea Jan 5, 2023

Tom in London wrote:

So another poll question might be "do you depend entirely on translation to make a living?"


I do so far. I studied pharmacy because I wanted to improve the quality of my translations.

I am sorry that I made a mistake by using the plural of “phenomenon” inappropriately.


 
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