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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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I have an expired passport Jan 11, 2023

I had a valid one for a long time but I don’t travel as often as I used to and when I do it’s within the UE (where it’s not needed)…

 
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Two Jan 11, 2023

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Two: Irish and British


 
Yes Jan 11, 2023

Tom in London wrote:
Two: Irish and British

One for each of your personalities?

Seriously, though, what a waste of paper and taxpayers’ money.


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Samuel Murray
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Yes Jan 11, 2023

Yes. Its very simple in my current country (the Netherlands) to get a passport. Part of the process can be completed online (you just have to visit the city council offices physically to register your signature and fingerprint). You also need to present your existing identity cards. The rules for the photo are clear and photographers are reliable. I paid €15 for the photo. The cost of the passport itself is about €80, and it takes 6 days. During some times it may take a week or so to get ... See more
Yes. Its very simple in my current country (the Netherlands) to get a passport. Part of the process can be completed online (you just have to visit the city council offices physically to register your signature and fingerprint). You also need to present your existing identity cards. The rules for the photo are clear and photographers are reliable. I paid €15 for the photo. The cost of the passport itself is about €80, and it takes 6 days. During some times it may take a week or so to get an appointment, though. If you pay €60 extra, you can get the passport the very next day. You have to apply for it in the city or town where you are a resident.

In my previous country (South Africa), it officially takes 7-21 days, but don't bank on it. A passport costs €35. You have to apply in person at a branch of the government's department of home affairs -- there may not be one in your town or city (you don't have to go to the one closest to where you live). You can't make an appointment -- you have to arrive early and hope to reach the front of the queue before closing time. You have to hope that the computer system is not down on that day. Photographers are unreliable (i.e. the photographer may claim to take passport photos, and then you discover that the photo is rejected at the office) and the rules for photos are a moving target (different offices will tell you different things), although some more modern offices have biometric systems that take the photo itself. The last time I applied for a passport in South Africa was 5 years ago when I was there on holiday, and at the end of my holiday I had to travel 1000 km back to the office where I had applied for it to pick it up.

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Baran Keki
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Just curious Jan 11, 2023

Samuel Murray wrote:

Yes. Its very simple in my current country (the Netherlands) to get a passport. Part of the process can be completed online (you just have to visit the city council offices physically to register your signature and fingerprint). You also need to present your existing identity cards. The rules for the photo are clear and photographers are reliable. I paid €15 for the photo. The cost of the passport itself is about €80, and it takes 6 days. During some times it may take a week or so to get an appointment, though. If you pay €60 extra, you can get the passport the very next day. You have to apply for it in the city or town where you are a resident.

In my previous country (South Africa), it officially takes 7-21 days, but don't bank on it. A passport costs €35. You have to apply in person at a branch of the government's department of home affairs -- there may not be one in your town or city (you don't have to go to the one closest to where you live). You can't make an appointment -- you have to arrive early and hope to reach the front of the queue before closing time. You have to hope that the computer system is not down on that day. Photographers are unreliable (i.e. the photographer may claim to take passport photos, and then you discover that the photo is rejected at the office) and the rules for photos are a moving target (different offices will tell you different things), although some more modern offices have biometric systems that take the photo itself. The last time I applied for a passport in South Africa was 5 years ago when I was there on holiday, and at the end of my holiday I had to travel 1000 km back to the office where I had applied for it to pick it up.

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Is it easy for Afrikaners to get a Dutch passport?


 
Samuel Murray
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@Baran Jan 11, 2023

Baran Keki wrote:
Is it easy for Afrikaners to get a Dutch passport?

Just as easy as it is for any other random African person to get a Dutch passport. The fact that we speak similar languages or the fact that some of ancestors 200 years ago came from that other country, does not have any bearing on whether people from either country qualify for each other's citizenship. That said, on average more Afrikaners are highly skilled than other South Africans, and have sufficient wealth to migrate, and the Netherlands welcomes highly skilled migrants (and you then qualify for citizenship after 6 years).


 
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How is this relevant Jan 11, 2023

to our profession? What kind of question is this?

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Baran Keki
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Poor buggers Jan 11, 2023

Samuel Murray wrote:
Just as easy as it is for any other random African person to get a Dutch passport. The fact that we speak similar languages or the fact that some of ancestors 200 years ago came from that other country, does not have any bearing on whether people from either country qualify for each other's citizenship. That said, on average more Afrikaners are highly skilled than other South Africans, and have sufficient wealth to migrate, and the Netherlands welcomes highly skilled migrants (and you then qualify for citizenship after 6 years).

You'd have thought they'd be given some degree of priority over others given their racial and cultural affinity.. but then they'd probably have flocked to the tiny Netherlands instead of Australia or NZ.
I saw a documentary years ago on Youtube about the poverty among Afrikaners. It seemed more and more of them were living in abject poverty, in tents, deplorable conditions... They said they were being particularly discriminated against after the Apartheid. Many of them were looking to escape from S. Africa.


 
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New poll question Jan 11, 2023

Ana Vozone wrote:

to our profession? What kind of question is this?


Do you have socks?


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Relevance Jan 11, 2023

Ana Vozone wrote:
How is this relevant to our profession? What kind of question is this?

Well, I suppose for most of us it is a proxy for the question "Do you regularly visit the country of your source language?", or maybe just whether we are curious about other countries and cultures, which you would think most linguists would be.

The statistic that a quarter of us don't have a valid passport is as interesting as anything else that ever comes out of these polls. What we should make of it, though, is less clear.


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Christine Andersen
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I have two Jan 11, 2023

In principle, having a passport makes no difference to a translator's work, but keeping in touch with both or all working languages is important, and that often involves travelling.
I am British by birth and point out that British English is my native language, and I have kept my British nationality although I have lived most of my life outside the UK. That means using my British passport to go back to the UK as often as I can afford to, and hearing the language in everyday life (as well a
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In principle, having a passport makes no difference to a translator's work, but keeping in touch with both or all working languages is important, and that often involves travelling.
I am British by birth and point out that British English is my native language, and I have kept my British nationality although I have lived most of my life outside the UK. That means using my British passport to go back to the UK as often as I can afford to, and hearing the language in everyday life (as well as seeing my family).

However, since Denmark has allowed dual citizenship since 2016, I am the proud holder of a Danish passport too. This means I am still still a citizen of the EU, which makes it easy to travel and keep in touch with my other languages - especially German, Swedish and Norwegian, but I also dabble in French and Italian.

I am humbly aware that it is an enormous privilege to be able to travel freely, but I think it is important!

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Kay Denney
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I have three, so there!

Chris Says Bye
 
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Robert Rietvelt wrote:

Ana Vozone wrote:

to our profession? What kind of question is this?


Do you have socks?


ooh yes, I have lots more socks, than passports, every single one a different colour or with different motifs, from little dogs to big hearts.


Robert Rietvelt
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Robert Rietvelt
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Hmmmmmm (????) Jan 11, 2023

Ice Scream wrote:

Ana Vozone wrote:
How is this relevant to our profession? What kind of question is this?

Well, I suppose for most of us it is a proxy for the question "Do you regularly visit the country of your source language?", or maybe just whether we are curious about other countries and cultures, which you would think most linguists would be.


A bit far-fetched, but I do admire your 'phantasy'.

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[Edited at 2023-01-12 10:58 GMT]


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